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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 01-25-2009, 02:21 AM

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That’s a very interesting question. I believe there are things we will never fully understand. But we have been created in God’s image, and many things have been offered as gifts to us, but they are known not by the mind but through other means.
Other means? Really? You have an example? (I bet you don't)
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Everyone worries about their insurance policies. It is there, even when they are not sitting around. Everyone wants insurance, and wants to be reassured that they can put something down now as payment for what might come to pass.
I don’t see your problem. On the financial level, just buy insurance to the right coverage – perhaps a little more than you think you will ever need. On a spiritual level, merely obey the Word of The Lord.
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This is fear, and also hope. Everyone worries about the future, where they will go, and whether they will be saved or the opposite. It is a real fear.
No they do not. I do not worry. You really are filled with fear, you keep going on and on about it - relax. I worry about you, I sometimes think you are abnormal with this fear and worry you keep banging on about. I simply cannot understand why this should be the case for you. Hope, what is the point of hope? God has a Plan – if we are in it, we need neither fear nor hope. If we are not in it, then fear and hope are pointless for we are lost whatever happens. Accept and put your trust in The Lord!

Do you think any reasonably Almighty Being would want His creations to go around in fear and trembling when He has given them a set of instructions by way of The Bible?

Why, it is like your being taught a skill by the very finest Craftsman, eventually he will judge you but He has given you all you need to know and you have paid attention – what examination could there be that would be difficult for a diligent student? None.




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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 01-29-2009, 12:58 AM

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Other means? Really? You have an example? (I bet you don't)
Well of course, but any example I give will necessarily be via language, that’s the problem. It’s tricky to convey to each other without getting lost in the word, and all of the stuff that goes with it. But put it this way – you would not deny the primacy of other experiences, so why deny yourself this in other areas? When you pick up a hot pan, you don’t need to refer to a book to tell you it’s going to burn. You doubt this is possible with other types of knowledge, I wonder why? What did Jesus mean in John 8:43 “Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word”.


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I don’t see your problem. On the financial level, just buy insurance to the right coverage – perhaps a little more than you think you will ever need. On a spiritual level, merely obey the Word of The Lord.No they do not. I do not worry. You really are filled with fear, you keep going on and on about it - relax. I worry about you, I sometimes think you are abnormal with this fear and worry you keep banging on about. I simply cannot understand why this should be the case for you. Hope, what is the point of hope? God has a Plan – if we are in it, we need neither fear nor hope. If we are not in it, then fear and hope are pointless for we are lost whatever happens. Accept and put your trust in The Lord![/FONT]
Ah, I think we are at cross purposes a bit here. I am saying fear is the driving force for following another, or following a word, and it is on sale here. Fear of what might happen should we take the wrong path, all the consequences of that, don’t you agree? The fear of hell, of eternal damnation, and the hope of heaven, salvation. If it is a fear for you no longer – because you are suitably insured - then at some point previously in your life I guess both of these might have been big concerns. That is what I meant; for those who have not been contented with the insurance policy being sold, there is a need for more.

And although you are happy to sit secure in the knowledge that you are part of God’s plan, I would be surprised if that question doesn’t arise once in a while for many, no matter how careful one is in making the payments. Life has a way of prompting the question.
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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 01-29-2009, 01:10 AM

I'm glad you haven't forgotten us, Joe.


May you be a blessing to every life you touch.
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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 02-07-2009, 01:35 AM

No, certainly not Nobar! Though I have been dwelling a great deal on that statement.

It is really very interesting. There is a lot in John 8:43, don't you think?
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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 02-07-2009, 02:01 AM

Yes.


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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 02-07-2009, 02:28 AM

Good. Care to comment further?

Also Luke 11:39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

And Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

This is important stuff.
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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 12-15-2011, 04:10 AM

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If Christianity is true, then the Christian is rewarded no matter what, and the Muslim is punished no matter what.
This is an anointed teaching, Pastor. It's not a matter of "Good" versus "Bad" that determines where we will spend eternity. It is a matter of SAVED versus LOST.

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.


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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 12-21-2011, 08:15 PM

Wait, so I should convert to Christianity because there's a better chance of a payout at the end? Or, in better terms, there is the best chance of NO LOSS at the end?

Even if you are proving for your religion, putting it into end-payout terms is bad.

That's like saying, become Christian just so you get the goods when you die. Not because you BELIEVE in God, or because you like God, or you like the bible.

You just compared religions to gambling, indeed. Even if your religion wins, I don't think that's a very nice way of phrasing why your religion is the "best".
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Wait, so I should convert to Christianity because there's a better chance of a payout at the end? Or, in better terms, there is the best chance of NO LOSS at the end?

Even if you are proving for your religion, putting it into end-payout terms is bad.

That's like saying, become Christian just so you get the goods when you die. Not because you BELIEVE in God, or because you like God, or you like the bible.

You just compared religions to gambling, indeed. Even if your religion wins, I don't think that's a very nice way of phrasing why your religion is the "best".
It's the ONLY chance of a payout at the end.



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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 12-21-2011, 09:19 PM

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That's like saying, become Christian just so you get the goods when you die. Not because you BELIEVE in God, or because you like God, or you like the bible.
I don't know where to start with that one. It is so bad, it isn't even wrong!

In the beginning there is God
God makes man and offers him a deal - Eternal happiness
Satan offers man a deal - Eternal torture
Which entrepreneur will get your money? - A no-brainer eh?

To get the prize you have to believe in God, and why wouldn't you? He has offered you a good deal. What's not to like?

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You just compared religions to gambling, indeed.
You did notice the title of the thread, didn't you?

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Even if your religion wins, I don't think that's a very nice way of phrasing why your religion is the "best".
So, you'd seriously consider a religion that promised you as the final pay-out, "As much as you can eat for two weeks at The Olive Garden"?

Why would God make the offer if he didn't want you to consider it?




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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 12-23-2011, 06:08 AM

I have considered this for a long time and I have realized that Islam has the best payout.

In Christianity's heaven you get a mansion.

John 14:2 In My Fathers house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

The streets are paved with gold and the walls of the city of heaven are encrusted in jewels.

Revelation 21:15-

In the Christian heaven people are resurrected into a chaste state where there will be no marriage or sex.

Jesus said to them, "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven."

In the Islamic heaven, you get drunk all day and have sex with virginal women.

The righteous shall return to a blessed retreat: the gardens of Eden, whose gates shall open wide to receive them. Reclining there with bashful virgins for companions, they will call for abundant fruit and drink.
Quran 38:51-2, Sad

You can marry virgins who I guess stay as virgins forever.

As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amid gardens and fountains, arrayed in rick silks and fine brocade. Even thus; and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris (virgins).
Quran 44:51-54, "Smoke,"

You can bugger boys to your heart's content.

Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them. Youths (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.They will advance to each other, engaging in mutual enquiry. Quran 52:24-25 "The Mountain"

More specifics on how great it will be. An outdoor scene where it's never hot or cold, yet you get to lay on a couch all day. You get neat silk and gold robes to wear too.

And will reward them for what they patiently endured [with] a garden [in Paradise] and silk [garments]. [They will be] reclining therein on adorned couches. They will not see therein any [burning] sun or [freezing] cold.
And near above them are its shades, and its [fruit] to be picked will be lowered in compliance.
And there will be circulated among them vessels of silver and cups having been [created] clear [as glass] Quran 76:11-19 "The Man"

And of course more boy buggery.

There will circulate among them young boys made eternal. When you see them, you would think them [as beautiful as] scattered pearls. Quran 76:11-19 "The Man"


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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 12-23-2011, 07:06 AM

Maybe an eternity of fornication appeals to some, but it is irrelevant, as they will be cast into fire. I very much look forward to joining Christ in Heaven, cleaving to His bosom, gazing into His eyes, whispering sweet nothings into His ear, and telling Him how much I love Him.... for all eternity. I even intend to take up the lute, so I can sing Him praise songs.


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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 09-29-2015, 07:29 PM

There are lots of wishy washy theological arguments. For example, it is claimed Hinduism is an old faith. Or, Islam is the fastest growing faith.

But, these are no match for the scientific conclusion shown to us by this Game Theory. The facts that show a superior return from investing one's life in True Christianity are simply above contradiction. It's a no contest deal.

As a Mayor, I am often asked for advice about what people should do with their private savings. I always say, invest in Pastor Zeke and Landover Baptist Church and you cannot go wrong.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 09-29-2015, 07:57 PM

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haven't heard anything more true


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Scared Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 09-29-2015, 08:43 PM

Joos? They die. Life on Earth is Hell for them
Mooslimes, 72 virgins (right, like there is a virgin girl in in towelheadistan under the age of two who has not been raped by every family member and goat) and rivers of honey? Not a single steak, no bacon.l Sounds like Hell to me.
Atheionics? Nothing now, nothing later. Like a glass of water but without the water.
Christianity? Bliss in Heaven with Jesus.

Being a Christian is like having every turn passing 'Go' and collecting the blessing of Jesus and all all faiths and lack of faith is like spending your time in jail with no bunk mate.

Checkmate, sinner!


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Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Rebuke Re: Game Theory: Which Faith Gives the Best Payout? - 10-03-2015, 07:57 AM

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Regardless of what happens in the 70 years on earth, 70 years, as a percentage of eternity is nothing, nil, zero, zilch.Limbo is a catholic concept and thus a lie. There is no Biblical evidence for “limbo”. Further, you have made an error of logic – you have assumed that . . . evangelical . . . believe . . . more blubberish.
EVEN IF it were the case that there exists no biblical evidence for a Dogma of Catholicism IT would not matter for real true Christian Menschen !
Since Catholicism is the only True Christianism anything that was decided in the Vatican is OK with our Lord Jesus Christ!


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EVEN IF it were the case that there exists no biblical evidence for a Dogma of Catholicism IT would not matter for real true Christian Menschen !
Since Catholicism is the only True Christianism anything that was decided in the Vatican is OK with our Lord Jesus Christ!


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